More Murrieta Council and Initiative C D E posts

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

An Opinion From The Oct 4 2010 Candidate Forum

And add two more opinions...Barbara Nugent, a council supporter and groupie and who wrote for the opposing view on the ballot,  and Kelly Seyarto, former councilman and union fire captain,  both spoke out against the Initiatives. Nugent seemed to think not being a charter city like Bell meant that  we could not be abused by high city salaries. Really Barbara? Have you seen the salary list? If you think those  city salaries are justified I have a bridge to sell you on Date Street.  Mr Seyarto also chimed in with his biased opinion like only a public employee union member could. Mr Seyarto seemed to think that dropping yearly salaries to a level that was still well above what most Murrietans earn would hurt the city. Really? Tell that to all the taxpayers supporting those salaries or those without jobs that are as qualified as those employed by the city and would gladly work for the lower and market based rate.  So far the unified bias by all council members, a former council member, and their close groupies,  should send up a red flag.  They are trying to protect their benefits that would be lost should the Initiatives pass. Mr. Seyarto is probably nervous that if these go statewide his last few years of salaries might be reduced and hurt the pension he will recieve. Wow think about it: These Initiatives may be part of the answer to public employee pension abuse. Hey Steve Mandoki how is that 25k a month pension working for you?  Can we trust the opinions of those affected by the Initiatives?  The answer is NO!  VOTE YES  C  D E!!

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  1. City Council Member Lashes Out At Private Citizen

    Bob Kowell knows he’s not the most popular person at Murrieta City Hall. His Murrieta Initiatives C, D, and E has drawn sharp criticism from the members of the city council.

    Rick Gibbs is an entrenched city council member, and former mayor, of Murrieta. Mr. Gibbs was one of the eight candidates present at the Murrieta City Council Candidate’s Forum at The Colony at California Oaks on Tuesday night.

    The audience was stunned when Rick launched into a personal attack against Bob Kowell during the forum, pointing Mr. Kowell out in the second row, proclaiming that Kowell’s initiatives were the result of jealousy over incomes, and anger that candidates of the past who supported Mr. Kowell’s initiatives did not win their elections.

    As the drama unfolded, some people in the audience sat stunned, while others actually applauded Rick Gibbs’ unethical attack. Mr. Kowell simply sat there, refusing to take the bait, and allowed Mr. Gibbs to continue his personal attack against him without retaliating.

    Rick Gibbs did not seem to realize what he had done wrong, and at the end of the forum brushed by Douglas V. Gibbs, a candidate that supports Kowell’s initiatives, without even a word, or a handshake, as Douglas extended his hand.

    Outraged by Rick Gibbs’ behavior, Douglas V. Gibbs called Rick’s actions unethical, and uncalled for. “City Council members,” said Douglas, “are supposed to be serving the citizens of the city, not verbally attacking them. Frankly, I was surprised about what I witnessed. Rick Gibbs claims to be a stalwart member of the community, yet verbally attacked Mr. Kowell without provocation.”

    When the forum ended, Rick Gibbs vanished quickly.

    “If city council members are supposed to serve the people of the city,” Douglas Gibbs added later, “Rick Gibbs failed to serve as an example of service by attacking Bob Kowell. It is one thing to be against the initiatives, but it is another to personally attack someone verbally in front of all those people. Surely, the code of ethics he swore to uphold would not condone such actions.”

    Douglas Gibbs also said he thinks Rick’s anger is rooted in not only his opposition to Murrieta Initiatives C, D, and E, but also in past disputes he has had with Mr. Kowell.

    Bob Kowell indicated that he did not feel threatened by Rick Gibbs’ actions, but that Rick’s outburst was not consistent with the kind of behavior a city council member is supposed to portray.

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